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Nov 17, 2008 20:37:41 GMT -4
Post by Michael Dervin OCS on Nov 17, 2008 20:37:41 GMT -4
Mr. Kovac,
The reason behind this deabte is to debate, not to post one post per day on a topic, that is not a debate but merely posting as we do anyway on a range of topics. What I am looking for in this, is a debate in which we all debate each other's points and stances on issues and try to convince the general public why our opinion/stance/promise is correct and the best for Ocia, what you proposed will not accomplish this nor will it be a debate. What I am asking is that the one post only thing be lifted and the debate issue to run over 2 days rather than just one and a lot of the issues before this debate can be rolled into each other so there is no issue over time constraints.
Secondly, Matt, I do not think you are in the position to speak on behalf of the nation, so please do not try to speak on behalf or pass your opinion of as that of the nation's. In your opinion, my term as president would of only been successful if I fought in about 20 wars and engaged in personal vandettas against everyone who looked at me the wrong way or said something which I didn't like. Your standards by which you judge others a flawed and one should look at themselves and sort out their own house before the attack others with statements which are only true for you.
If, the Citizens of Ocia decide to elect me on December 1st, then I will continue to build Ocia with sustainable plans and activity, which have been proved to work, for the benefit of Ocia and not for the benefit of Matt Kovac!
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Nov 17, 2008 21:00:45 GMT -4
Post by King Kakali OCS on Nov 17, 2008 21:00:45 GMT -4
The suggestions sound reasonable to me. Are the other candidates willing to go with this?
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Nov 18, 2008 0:18:19 GMT -4
Post by Matt Kovac on Nov 18, 2008 0:18:19 GMT -4
For goodness sake, Mr. Dervin was suggesting that the candidates including himself couldnot spend a few minutes on the forum a day to have a debate.
Since I don't want to take this any further I will be fine on debating in whichever way best accomodates the two other candidates.
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Nov 18, 2008 9:35:47 GMT -4
Post by anthonymontague on Nov 18, 2008 9:35:47 GMT -4
The suggestions sound reasonable to me. Are the other candidates willing to go with this? It depends which suggestions are sounding reasonable lol I personally thought Mr. Kovac's idea would work best but obviously Mr. Dervin disagrees.
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Nov 18, 2008 11:59:49 GMT -4
Post by King Kakali OCS on Nov 18, 2008 11:59:49 GMT -4
We start with one topic, allow the candidates to post their responses first to the topics and then to each other's reponses, allow for the citizens to comment, and then move on. No necessary one topic per day or anything.
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Nov 18, 2008 12:41:53 GMT -4
Post by anthonymontague on Nov 18, 2008 12:41:53 GMT -4
That sounds perfectly good to me.
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Nov 18, 2008 21:03:38 GMT -4
Post by Michael Dervin OCS on Nov 18, 2008 21:03:38 GMT -4
No Problems...
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Nov 18, 2008 23:25:10 GMT -4
Post by King Kakali OCS on Nov 18, 2008 23:25:10 GMT -4
Mr. Kovac? If all the candidates will agree, I will try and commence with the debate starting tomorrow, thursday at the latest. Would we rather just host it here in the square, or someplace more 'formal'? I had proposed the currently unused Royal Assembly Hall in Ali'i Kaona as a possible location. Doesn't bug me where we have it, though.
As far as questions, the list that Rebecca posted to Anthony earlier will work for the basis, though i wont limit myself just to those. An exact list wont be given out prior to, so that we can keep our candidates on their toes.
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Nov 22, 2008 16:29:08 GMT -4
Post by Sir Kieran Henson OCS on Nov 22, 2008 16:29:08 GMT -4
I have question for Mr Kovac, who is I believe currently Administrator and Director of the Ocian Secuity Service (Forgive me, I don't know the full name or initials).
Being the only person who holds Admin Status, why did you grant Curtis Sinclair Admin Status, yet not Michael Dervin who is currently President and has always been at a higher level of Admin then Curtis. Also why were Security Logs never released and a full explanation by yourself given?
Thank you.
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Nov 22, 2008 17:15:51 GMT -4
Post by Matt Kovac on Nov 22, 2008 17:15:51 GMT -4
I have question for Mr Kovac, who is I believe currently Administrator and Director of the Ocian Secuity Service (Forgive me, I don't know the full name or initials). Being the only person who holds Admin Status, why did you grant Curtis Sinclair Admin Status, yet not Michael Dervin who is currently President and has always been at a higher level of Admin then Curtis. Also why were Security Logs never released and a full explanation by yourself given? Thank you. Even though this is not the official venue for the debate I will gladly answer this question. The answer to the first question is that I would hand over admin powers completely to whomever the law prescribes, but since there is no such law which regulates administration privileges I can not do that. Curtis was temporarily given a higher administration level so he could help reorganize the Ocian forums which he did do, after that time period I took them away. Curtis did not have to have global moderation powers to do what he did, the standard powers which a minister is entitled to made him capable of deleting a thousands posts, and Mr. Sinclair rightly had those privileges since he was a minister. As I'm sure you know first hand, even a government minister can abuse the privileges given to them on the forum by directly releasing sensitive information or referring to it-something which is equally damaging to what Curtis did. I do own up to the fact that I supported both you and Curtis' appointment much like the President and Prime Minister but I have since learned to regret my decision. To answer your last question the security logs have now been posted I simply forgot to do it.
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Nov 23, 2008 17:07:42 GMT -4
Post by Sir Kieran Henson OCS on Nov 23, 2008 17:07:42 GMT -4
I think your wrong, as I saw Curtis Sinclair's account with "administrator" beneath many times, and I as a Moderator, have never been able to modify or delete any posts.
What I did, is the past, I have apologised and am making up to Ocia for what I did, I have the backing of the Prime Minister and President to keep my position, yet you somehow cannot move on, that being fair enough, each person enititled to their own. But I must ask Mr Kovac, why you feel the need to bite back all the time, yet you apologised before. It doesn't bother me anymore Mr Kovac and If I do win the election, I'll happily give you a place in the Cabinet and work with you, if you could work with me?
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