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Post by King Kakali OCS on Dec 8, 2008 22:43:19 GMT -4
Ocian Department of Commerce Ministry of Finance & the Interior Citizens of the Federation, The Department of Commerce has, as of today, December 8, 2008, not received business registrations from the following: Ocian Architectural Works SeaOcia Letalski Aviation Corporation Gründer Industries OC Energy Ocian Automotive Works The Department of Commerce requests that these businesses register with the Department IMMEDIATELY. These above listed companies are in violation of the Ocian Economic Recovery Act which requires all businesses to register with the Ministry of Finance & the Interior. Failure to register by the end of 2008 will result in these companies being shut down by the Ministry of Finance & the Interior Please comply ASAP!
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Post by Matt Kovac on Dec 9, 2008 18:51:16 GMT -4
Economic Recovery Act? The economic recovery act is just an example of the failure of the Ocian government and legislators to renew the Ocian economy. How does making companies re-register jump start the economy? I have failed to understand this failed policy. The government should utilize its purchasing power-that will bolster the economy, making every company RE-register will not change anything. Its time to be innovative.
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Post by King Kakali OCS on Dec 9, 2008 19:42:21 GMT -4
'failure of the Ocian government'? Are you forgetting that you are a part of that said government? Are you forgetting that, while you didn't vote for the law, you "urged the President to sign it into law"? That was your only input when the Ocian economy had been slashed to tatters by Mr. Sinclair. That doesn't exactly sound like you disapproved, now does it?
Furthermore, having all companies re-register allowes the Ministry to have a proper feel with what has already been produced, and allows it to help regulate prices and help the economy get flowing. On top of all that, businesses that haven't registered have yet to receive their compensation after the switch over from the old to new Tolars. As of right now, those companies listed above have NO legal money at their disposal.
This policy has not failed because of actions of the government, but actions of the companies listed above. And how hard is it to fill out a few forms like everyone else was so eager and willing to do?
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Post by Matt Kovac on Dec 9, 2008 20:44:35 GMT -4
I have not forgotten that I am in this Coalition government, But time after time we have seen this, incometance. I tend to act as a house keeper for the Ocain Parliament, and my act of not voting was a motion my abstain vote towards the bill, which had some good parts, but however included very poor regulations.
In effect, your statements are obscenely melodramatic, Curtis did not Slash the economy to "Tatters;" the Ocain Economy was dysfunctional BEFORE he was even appointed, and he has been merely used as a scapegoat by many people including your self. This is a scapegoat I am very tired of hearing about, everyone should move on and recognize that others and not just curtis were to blame. Ocia's economy needs regulations that will build it up, re-registering a business’ will not benefit anyone, and if this Ministry wants to get a "feel" of what the other Ocian Companies are doing then perhaps they should stop by and not only offer Financial and Logistical support, but also the opportunity to bolster the Ocian Economy by purchasing from our own national companies. Have you forgotten that those companies are run by the Ocian Government? The companies are nationalized and they are under the direct control and Responsibility of the Ocian government.
It’s not hard to fill out forms, but in theory it’s useless to do so. There is no compensation required for anyone; the Ocian Economy needs to take a new direction and Disregard your predecessor’s decision to destroy all pre-reform properties. The Tolar needs to be re-valued, Re-used. The Ocian government needs to find ways to employ the work force and access the work force. Perhaps its time to look at Energy Self Reliance, New Equipment for the ODF, New planes for Polaris and a new business plan.
Do you truly believe that this re registration system, which has dragged on for months, will really do anything for the Ocian Economy? We as a government should begin to look at Ocia's unique global economic role, until August our main weapon was creativity, lets bring that back.
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Post by King Kakali OCS on Dec 9, 2008 22:47:26 GMT -4
I'll give you the point that I was being overdramatic...I was irked. I would like to ask why, if you had such issued with the act, that you did not speak up and say so? If you thought that there were serious issues that it either did not address, or did not address properly, why did you, as a member of the Assembly, speak up and say so!? All you said in that discussion was that: I call on the President to sign this act into law. If you had issues with it, why did you say that? "The Tolar needs to be re-valued,.." The Recovery Act did this. There are now officially 1 billion tolars, most of which are still at the mint, so to speak. And as for those companies being state-owned, where does it say that? None of thier displays proclaim them to be state owned. And how should I know otherwise? They were preexisting when I joined 6 months ago, and havn't really been active/ used since. I assumed they were your companies. At any rate, I'm sure that you created most of them, so only you'd know their assets. Now that I know that they are state-owned/operated, I'll have stuff for them to do. But I need to have the information that is requested on the re-registry forms so that I can do so. And I'd also need to know how much money in Old Tolars they have, so that I can transfer that into the new currency, and then we can properly distribute the rest of the new tolars. I'd also like to point out that I sent you a PM on the 5th of October saying: And you replied later that same day: First off, I'll admit I assumed that you were also going to register thos companies that I again assumed were yours. I shouldn't have assumed, that's now evident. I appologize. Still, you never even registered yourself, which was needed so that your own personal holdings could be transfered into the new currency, and so that you could have your personal bank account set up with the CBO. At any rate, as soon as you can get me that information on the state operated companies, I'll get this thing rolling again. Sorry for the confusion.
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Post by anthonymontague on Dec 10, 2008 12:52:10 GMT -4
If the companies do not re-register, will they be taken into state ownership or will their assets be put on auction?
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Post by Matt Kovac on Dec 10, 2008 16:18:24 GMT -4
They will remain as they are that I assure you.
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Post by CJ Miller on Jan 25, 2009 16:52:31 GMT -4
The end of 2008 has passed; therefore, I move that these companies be shut down and/or nationalized.
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Post by King Kakali OCS on Jan 25, 2009 17:17:21 GMT -4
It was determined by the MFI that these companies were already owned by the state.
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Post by Matt Kovac on Jan 25, 2009 21:12:23 GMT -4
If anyone tries to make any improper moves with these corporations there will be consequences. As I highlighted there is no benefit in registering companies.
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Post by King Kakali OCS on Jan 26, 2009 12:21:48 GMT -4
I'd like to point out that regardless of whether you see any benifit in registering companies or not, it is OFFICIAL gov't policy.
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